rounded up en masse, and they had to leave their homes if they lived in what was called the western defense zone. so they were removed and put in camps surrounded by barbed wire in the interior, and they were not charged with anything in particular. i got interested in this issue when i read an article about african-american and jewish civil rights organizations, an article by sheryl between burg, talking about how -- greenberg, talking about how the issue had passed unnoticed to them. and they were in new york city, right? the headquarters were. so i got curious about what the reaction would be here, and i expected to find that jewish community because of the involvement if civil rights issues would have spoken out here because unlike the jewish community in new york, for those who lived here, japanese-americans weren't an abstraction, they were their neighbors. they were familiar with them, and the community had a commitment, a public commitment to speaking out against what they called prejudice in all its forms. a lot of the reaction was really a nonreaction, and i think in order to unde